More fun from the “Religion of Peace”

mohammed “The brutal “honor killing” of a 16-year-old Afghan immigrant by her brother has sparked a renewed debate in Germany over whether Islamic families can adapt to the social ways of the Western world.”

My answer is apparently not.

Because you don’t want some one who lives and intends to continue to live in Germany to be too German you kill her? Your own sister? You fail at life and because of this you take it out on your own sister?

Further more what the hell is wrong with the German police for not doing anything to protect this girl from her violent father and brother over the years from the abuse when they knew about it?

I reinstate my “WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE”?

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10 Comments

  1. This is not a religion issue. This is a cultural issue. In their culture honor means everything. It is a families livelyhood. Even though they moved to a new cultural society, they brought with them the principles of survival in their homeland. Unfortunatly German society doesn’t make a greater effort to incorporate these immigrant populations. When they actually integrate their society, this ideals of family honor get replaced with merit honor. It’s just as much the fault of the society that allowed it to happen, as the people who grew up with these ideals.

  2. Yes because society got together and stabbed a 16 year old girl to death not her brother. Now if you had read the post I linked to at the bottom you would understand that I know it is a cultural thing.

  3. I don’t place equal responsibility on society for these crimes. Unfortunately, though, I don’t think most Western “front line” people (e.g., the police, the schools, the social service agencies) are sufficiently trained and equipped to deal with these crimes. In general, they don’t seem to recognize the triggers, nor do they seem to appreciate the level of risk at which some of these girls and women find themselves. It is not society’s fault, though, for these crimes are not indigenous to modern Western societies. Until very recently, there simply hasn’t been much need to know about dishonor killings.

    Ellen R. Sheeley, Author
    “Reclaiming Honor in Jordan”

  4. Yes the “front Line” people are not sufficiently prepared to handle or understand some of these problems however the history of abuse should of been a warning to the authorities that there was a problem that needed to be investigated. Of course you couldn’t have a seminar on “how to spot a potential honor killing” without being burned at the stake for being culturally insensitive and or racist. Even saying that people need to assimilate to their new country’s culture will often times get you accused of xenophobia or racism and this can create many of the problems in trying to get the front line people to understand and be able to properly respond before it is to late.

  5. Perfectly good waste of a 16 year old girl…

    Somebody should gotten her outta that damn family!

  6. Yeah they should have, but since didn’t didn’t happen they should hang her family.

  7. Hi, demoists! good to see you! been working on any more holocausts recently? I mean, stereotypes are great. Jews, Muslims, it’s fine to generalize about everyone of a given demographic, no real harm in it. I mean, I know all christians are illogical, non-thinking racists like you and Hitler, right?

    Ok,now that I have your attention: seriously, WHAT? you hear about this, start hating all the islamic culture for something a single one did, and advocate “hang[ing] her family.” No trying to think of a way to make progress in forwarding even so mush as your incredibly subjective veiw of morality, no useful comments. And on the author’s part, i respect free speech/press/etc. as much as the next guy, but hatemongering like this? shame.

    Signed,
    (ellimistd)
    a 14-year-old kid who belives in a form of socialism (you wouldn’t understand fully), Logic & Science, and that you are wrong.

  8. Um Hitler wasn’t a Christian, he hated Christianity, although he did try to hide that fact some of the time, but he was not a Christian. Read a book once in a while.

    You can call me a hate monger all you want I don’t care. But if you really want to know why I hate Islam it’s because of the Prophet Muhammad, he was a war lord a child rapist, a thief and a slave trader who created a religion to excuse and and legitimize his own horrible behavior. Yes Muhammad was scum, pure and simple so why should I have any respect fro his cult? And since you brought up Hitler I hate Nazis, because Hitler was scum, so just because Hitler isn’t around any more doesn’t mean I’m going to trust the current crop of Nazis.

    Good for you on being a 14 year old socialist, you have fun with that. Come back when you grow up and pull your head out of your own ass.

  9. I’m sorry, Hitler wasn’t christian?
    “And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the handiwork of the Lord.”
    – ch. 2, Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler. as translated in http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt. I might reccomend to you to try reading a few books that arn’t propaganda. (well, yes, mein kampf is propaganda, but i meant republican stuff) Alternate viewpoints never hurt.

    Im sure that Hitler’s basically an authority on himself. Now, if you claim that he was only taking on the name of christianity as a defence for his actions, that he was not a “True Christian”, as I’m sure some would say, the same thing can be said for the man this article refers to. As for hating Mohamed, I can understand that (I still need to learn more about him before I make a judgement. I plan to read the Qur’an sometime). Why hate the people who believe in Islam though, as long as they don’t do the same themself? I mean, I actually pity them, indoctrinated from birth. Kinda like with Christianity here.

    Also, your point about not trusting the “current crop of nazis”, what are you refering to? neonazis, who? please clarify.

    – Ellimistd

  10. I have read Mein Kampf, it’s a joke and poorly written, but that’s not the point, he only used Christianity when it could help him politically, but he truly hated it. And you did hint at it but remember that if someone is calling themselves a Christian are they living the real teachings of Christ or only calling themselves Christian and doing something different? Hitler was a nothing more than a racist atheist socialist. That;s what he was, I have no problem with atheists but the other two are not good people. Yes Hitler was not a Christian.

    No I don’t trust Neo-Nazis, yes some people are still nazis, just like some people are still Communists, and I don’t trust those people either. should I?

    And with Islam, Muhammad’s teachings were about and encouraged murder, rape and slavery, read the Qur’an, you will see it. If the religion teaches that that is a good thing why should I respect it?

    Trust me kid, I have read more books this year than you have in your life, remember you are 14, that would make me twice your age. You just got into high school while I took a dual major in History and Political Science in college, see the problem here? And don’t talk to me about propaganda, do you go to public school? Most of the crap they teach there is propaganda, because they don’t teach academics, I know this, went to public school too, unless you go to the library on your own you aren’t going to learn shit.


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